April 20, 2014

luvinscandal—6ways2sunday:

raytwin:

cindersinrags:

divaspoet:

cindersinrags:

divaspoet:

cindersinrags:

divaspoet:

babycakesbriauna:

nikkisshadetree:

bananadome:

Olivia loves Fitz

No she doesn’t.

She doesn’t know how to love

Whatever she feels for him, it isn’t strong enough to make her stay and fight for them and their future. It isn’t strong enough to overpower her need to flee every single time they are tested or an uncomfortable situation presents itself.
She may not know how to show her feelings, but a large part of that is because she has never truly committed herself to feeling those feelings, being honest about those feelings, accepting those feelings, verbally acknowledging those feelings, and attempting to express those feelings with honest actions.

But what is she fighting for? A man who told her that he’s staying to mend his wife’s brokenness and his family? For how long must she wait? For how long must she sit watching him mourn the loss of his child with his wife? A month? Three months? Six months? When will he get round to divorcing his wife?

Also, Olivia is bearing the guilt of one of her parents murdering the son of the man she loves. She thinks that the problem is her, and she thinks that everybody would be better off if she removed herself from their lives. Damn, I was exhausted watching the toll that working for Fitz and his family took on her. Olivia’s entire life is a wreck, and some of that is Fitz’s fault. Regardless of how much she loves him, the idea that she should stay when she feels as broken as she does, just to be there for him is BS. Olivia has to put herself first, she has to fix herself otherwise she’s no good to anybody in her orbit, she’s certainly no good for Fitz carrying all that guilt. The only reason people are angry is because she let Jake go with her, had she gone alone, nobody would have been talking about how selfish she was leaving him to grieve alone for his son.

It shouldn’t be up to Olivia to fight, Fitz is the one who’s married. Fitz is the one who has to extricate himself out of his marriage, but he’s staying to fix his family, and no matter how much he says he loves Olivia, talk is cheap. Action is what matters. Fitz is doing the right thing by staying with Mellie for now, but that doesn’t stop the fact that it must hurt Olivia. Her leaving on a plane with Jake doesn’t mean that she doesn’t love Fitz as much as he loves her, it just means that she’s recognized that she needs to fix her life. Jake being with her is a terrible idea, but she’ll probably realize that soon enough.

I think it’s ridiculous that people are blaming the single woman in the adulterous relationship for not being there for the man who says he wants to marry her and have babies with her, even though he’s still married.

I usually don’t do this, but what the hell. If both parties in a relationship aren’t willing to actively fight for the survival of that relationship, it will never work. Period. And I’m going to keep noting, because somehow this constantly gets overlooked, Olivia was very well aware that Fitz was married when she rolled her suitcase right past her own door and down the hall to his room. She didn’t wake up one day and suddenly discover that Fitz already had a wife. I (used to wholeheartedly) believe in the bond between Fitz and Olivia, but when one person is (even extremely, miserably, and unhappily) married, there will be hurdles to jump and mountains to climb when pursing a future with that person. If you’re going to pursue it, you have to face the consequences. If you don’t want the consequences, move on and don’t keep going back. Talk is cheap because when you say you’re in it together, when you say you want to live in the here and now, when you say you love someone but your actions are you always walking away, the sight of your back (or a detached and cowardly resignation letter) speak much louder. Actions are what matter right? How long must she wait? That depends on how long she’s willing to play this game of yo-yo. That depends on how many times she wants to throw up roadblocks. If she doesn’t want to deal with him while he’s still married then she should actually stop dealing with him while he’s still married. I think it’s ridiculous that people refuse to rightfully assign any responsibility to the unmarried woman, the same unmarried woman who consciously and freely chose to get involved in an adulterous relationship with the President, who demanded to be earned then proclaimed she couldn’t be won. My question for those who believe Fitz is at fault for the state of their relationship, that Olivia shouldn’t be blamed for anything, that everyone else is the problem - why would she need any fixing? She’s just the victim that everyone uses, right? She’s just the help, right? She’s never in the wrong, right?

So because Olivia knew that Fitz was married 5 years ago when she slept with him, her feelings about being with a married man shouldn’t change because she knew what she was getting into? That thought process doesn’t allow for the time, the pressure, and strains that happen in a normal relationship, let alone a relationship where the guy is married. It doesn’t take into consideration that the things that you thought you wanted five years ago, and how you felt about certain situations, might not be the same today.

I think the question to ask is, if Fitz got a divorce and he was a free to be with her, do you think that Olivia would keep walking away from him? If the answer is yes, then the relationship is doomed whatever, but if the answer is no, then that suggests to me that his marital status is what needs to change, and there’s only person in their relationship who can change the status quo, and it isn’t Olivia.

The state of their relationship isn’t about who’s most at fault, it’s about the actions that are needed to get them from point A to point B. Fitz isn’t at fault per se, but he’s the one with the greatest power to change the trajectory of their relationship.  If Olivia stays around being Fitz’s mistress without Fitz actually getting a divorce, how does that move them forward? Fitz loves Olivia and Olivia loves Fitz, yet they can’t tell anybody, they can’t publicize it, because he’s married, how does that benefit them? I personally never called Olivia a victim, but the secrets, the lies, the working for Fitz and his family, being privy to his family drama had worn her out, yet she was still there, she didn’t leave. She didn’t leave because she felt she was a victim and she didn’t love Fitz enough, she left because she felt that her presence in his life made him a target. She wasn’t running away from him, she was running away for him.

I’m going to take my time and reread. I seem to keep missing the part that says Olivia owns a large portion of the choices and events that have led to her current circumstances.
Not calling someone a victim while placing the onus of correcting the problems on the shoulders of another is allowing that someone to escape responsibility for their participation - making them a victim without the label. Fitz isn’t totally at fault “per se” but he has to do all the heavy lifting? That “per se” is a cute way of spreading the blame around without really moving it anywhere.
I’m all for growth, progress, movement, but for three seasons I’ve watched her do the same thing over and over. That’s not growth, that’s a pattern. If this was the first time she bailed, especially considering the circumstances, it would be different. But it’s not.

In episode 316, Fitz says to Olivia “I didn’t happen to you” and she says “I know. That was her acknowledging that she went into this relationship with her eyes open. The choice to be with him has always been hers. Nowhere in my comments did I suggest otherwise. She has had opportunities to be with him and she’s walked away, and that’s on her. But she’s now in a field of guilt, where all she can see for miles are dead bodies and broken people. And she’s standing at the center of that field watching as more dead bodies and broken people are added to the ones around her already. She thought she was helping people, but realizes that as long as she’s around, nothing will change, and people will keep getting hurt, and she desperately wants that to change. I don’t agree with her that these things are entirely her fault, but there is no denying that she’s inextricably linked to bad shit happening to good people.

In Olivia’s mind, this isn’t about not loving Fitz enough, it’s about loving him enough to not want to cause him any more pain.

As for Fitz having to do most of the heavy lifting to change their relationship, I will always stand by this, because this isn’t a 50/50 relationship, this isn’t a relationship where she goes home and he’s there with a glass of wine ready to massage her feet. This is a relationship where she goes home to an empty apartment. This is a relationship where he’s married and she isn’t. For me, the most she should be doing is demanding that he divorce his wife, she should be giving him ultimatums because they’ve done this dance for long enough now. Unfortunately, that’s something that we’ve never seen her do. She’s never asked him to leave his wife, but circling back to my point, he’s the one who built them a home that they can’t live in until he gets a divorce. She shouldn’t really have to demand that he divorce his wife, that’s something that he should do regardless of Olivia, because his marriage is toxic as hell.

But Mellie and Fitz had to lance a huge ass boil full of secrets and lies before they can move forward to a divorce. Olivia is doing the right thing by not giving an ultimatum. We as an audience are tired as hell, and I get why we are impatient. But things as they stand now between Fitz and Olivia? I see why she was telling him to hold his horses on the phone. She was the one who said, you can’t leave her now and I wouldn’t want you if you did. She does not want that infection to creep into their relationship. That boil needs to crust over and heal. Liv knows that Fitz doesn’t love Mellie any more or love her any less, she just knows that Fitz needs to be a decent human being to the woman he shared over 20 years with. She was willing to wait again. Then Jerry died, and that is what made her snap and say, damn, I can’t do this. Everything is a mess and I need to re-assess.

cindersinrags you note that Olivia has never asked Fitz to leave his marriage.  This is an interesting part of your argument because it’s true.  She has never asked him to leave his marriage.  But on multiple occasions she has told, insisted, or advised him to remain in his marriage.  That shouldn’t be dismissed.  It’s not coincidental that she never asks him to leave and often asks him to stay. 

Who stands to benefit the most if Fitz stays in that marriage? Fitz.

Fitz may have had a difficult relationship with his father but he never shied away from the Grant for President project.

Olivia recognises that Fitz wanted to be president, in his weakest moments he says otherwise but, in his strongest moments, you can tell that he enjoys being President. Ascending to presidency is a huge achievement and no one should have relinquish that postiton unless it’s a matter of life and death. Some cite Edward VIII as the man who gave up the throne in order to be with Wallis Simpson. Truth of the matter is this, Prince Edward was pushed aside by the Establishment because of  he was a well known Nazi sympathiser. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor wasted  away in exile leading an affluent but empty life.

Olivia insisted Fitz stay in that marriage because she knew the public would eviscerate him if he divorced his wife. They both know this but sometimes Fitz likes to delude himself into thinking otherwise. What woudl become of them if he were to leave office in disgrace, because that is the only way the scenario would play out what with the scheming opposition and poisonous media.

The best time to ask for a divorce would have been after surviving the assassination attempt unfortunately, Fitz fluffed that opportunity. In a huff he went back to Mellie.

Later, Fitz  then purported to choose Liv but, turns out he’d unilaterally decided not to run for a second term. Had he pursued a divorce, he would never have been able to run for the second term and win. Granted this win is equally mired in filth but this time through no direct fault of their own.

Much as folk would like to point a finger at Liv and argue that she’s the one who has time and again put a kibosh on their plans to be together. One must remember she has done this for his good and the good of his party and the Republic.

Fitz and Olivia’s situation is extremely complicated. Fitz is an encumbered man; caught between ambition, the dream of a once in a life time opportunity, familial responsibility, tradition, public expectations and his heart. Out of all the relevant parties Olivia has the biggest heart and at her best she demonstrates clarity of thought. It is folly to argue that Liv is somehow weak for putting Fitz first, for encouraging him to pursue his dreams and ambitions, for giving him space to resolve things with his family. It is right that she has stopped Fitz from losing himself in her. For Fitz to lose himself in Liv would be very much in keeping with the way Mellie lost herself in him…with disastrous consequences.

As for her father…I don’t even know where to start. No one gets out of B613 alive. Fitz should have finished the job-  cut down the tree, pulled up the roots and burnt them… together with the shoots. Fitz allowed the snake to linger in his garden, unbeknonwst to him, he granted the devil life, gave him the opportunity to live and fight another day, only to have the devil turn on him and devour his first born child, his only son. And look at where they are now.

 Let’s admit it, Fitz is not an ordinary man  and their  situation is bigger than them.This situation is complex. We are well past the point of blaming Liv or Fitz or Mellie. It is them and yet it is not, it is the public with their onerous expectations, it is the media with its devious agenda, it is the Party with its duplicitous requirements, it is the Republic. It is us.

And since we have all sides of the story, let’s  hope that they can find a way to be together without inflicting disrespect on Mellie or harm to the Republic or themselves.

April 20, 2014

ekki-neitt asked: How are the black panthers different from the KKK? Publicly shouting that we need to kill cracker babies is somehow okay because the group is black? Do you realize how fucking dumb you sound?

torisoulphoenix:

sbrown82:

torisoulphoenix:

un3ndingtragedy:

nikkisshadetree:

whitepeoplesaidwhat:

When was the last time the Black panthers Lynched anyone?
-Elijah

When’s the last time the Black Panthers burned crosses in someone’s yard?

When’s the last time the Black Panthers completely destroyed white towns for fear of their prosperity?

Have the panthers ever burned down any white schools to keep white people “in their place”?

Are these white folks serious?! Please, please…do yourselves a favor and earn some citations on this country’s history. The Black Panthers were NOT like the Klu Klux Klan. Their objective was not to go around and terrorize and murder white people. The KKK however, was definitely a reactionary terrorist/extremist group. The Klan emerged during “The Nadir” (the lowest point) in 1877, after poor and disenfranchised whites stomped out Reconstruction and Blacks ultimately lost their civil rights. White people losing their mobility in this country was the core reason for terrorizing African Americans, but after that bullshit, 15 reels, massive 3-hour long movie “The Birth of a Nation" was released in 1915, now all of a sudden, Black people became barraged with this false image of themselves as threatening, violent, and barbaric, particularly to white women in society (The New Negro Crime) which ultimately led to hundred of thousands of lynchings and murders of Blacks in America. The Klan had one objective, to exterminate Black people. They spurred false rhetoric, hate, and violence…that’s it!

The Black Panthers was a revolutionary socialist organization that started in the mid-1960’s in Oakland, CA aiming to PROTECT the Black community. They were against police brutality, imperialism, capitalism or anything they felt was detrimental to Black Americans. They wanted Black people to fend for themselves, that’s why they carried guns, and they used them cautiously. They helped the sick, the poor, single mothers and their children, they even implemented a free ambulance and breakfast program in the community, yet they’re like the KKK?! Their goals were simple: quality education, housing, employment, and civil rights.They were not a violent group and neither was Malcolm X, contrary to popular opinion, they just believed in their right to self defense.The bottom line is, The Black Panther Party was a mobilization by African Americans, and people of the African descent across the world to break down institutionalized oppression by any means necessary. And FYI, many whites supported like Marlon Brando, and others.

*Don’t disrespect my people and Blackness!

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GIRL, YOU BETTA SAY THAT SHIT!!!!!!

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April 20, 2014

wineandcaffeine:

Peter was skating on some thin ice telling Alicia she couldn’t be sure Will cared about her, what with Alicia standing by that block of knives in the kitchen..

Lol! My sentiments exactly.

April 20, 2014
"Not only is the Black female body deemed exotic, it is a site of contradictory investments, at once desirable and undesirable, known and unknown. It was important that Ba(a)rtman(n) was both an object of sexual interest and degraded. In short, to reconfigure her into “an object of derision, ‘a spectacle, a clown,’ is to strip away her sexual appeal, albeit perverse and objectified, to the French male spectator, to reinforce and reinscribe Ba(a)rtman(n)’s position in the Manichaean social world as a primitive savage.” Hence, one consistent theme in the European imaginary has been that the Black female body is not “normal” (read: white, civilized). Indeed, it ‘represents the abnormal in Eurocentric discourse.’"

— George Yancy, Black Bodies, White Gazes (via wretchedoftheearth)

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April 20, 2014
upnorthtrips:

The Champ & The Hurricane

upnorthtrips:

The Champ & The Hurricane

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April 20, 2014
breakingnews:

Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter dead at 76
Globe and Mail: Former boxer Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter died Sunday in Toronto at 76.
Carter became an advocate for the wrongly convicted after spending nearly 20 years in prison for a triple murder he didn’t commit.
Photo: Boxer Rubin (Hurricane) Carter in Toronto, March 18, 1992. (Edward Regan/The Globe and Mail)

breakingnews:

Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter dead at 76

Globe and Mail: Former boxer Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter died Sunday in Toronto at 76.

Carter became an advocate for the wrongly convicted after spending nearly 20 years in prison for a triple murder he didn’t commit.

Photo: Boxer Rubin (Hurricane) Carter in Toronto, March 18, 1992. (Edward Regan/The Globe and Mail)

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April 20, 2014
nature-nymph:

shasana:

sancophaleague:

Recently I was in the shopping mall  and I happened to hear a conversation between some people discussing their dislike for this black girl’s hairstyle who had just previously walked by. One of them called the girl’s  hairstyle “ghetto”, then followed up by saying  “I hate when black girls put all them colors in their hair”. It led me to ask this question, what is ghetto really?  Because I have seen similar hairstyles with Caucasian women never labeled as ghetto. The word “ghetto” has a negative stigma attached to it and it seems like ghetto has become synonymous for “Black People”.What determines whether something is Ghetto or not? Why do some people consider one ghetto and not the other? Is being crafty with the supplies available to me ghetto?  Is being creative while black unacceptable? Does the price of something determine whether you should consider it ghetto or not? Or maybe I’m wrong…. Please do share your thoughts….@hated_logic

You’re exactly right. Just like when Black people improvise, it’s ghetto, but let a middle-to-upper class white person do it, it’s a lifehack, or being thrifty, or economical, or thinking out of the box, or brilliant, or whatever.

THIS FOR ALL OF ETERNITY

nature-nymph:

shasana:

sancophaleague:

Recently I was in the shopping mall  and I happened to hear a conversation between some people discussing their dislike for this black girl’s hairstyle who had just previously walked by. One of them called the girl’s  hairstyle “ghetto”, then followed up by saying  “I hate when black girls put all them colors in their hair”. It led me to ask this question, what is ghetto really?  Because I have seen similar hairstyles with Caucasian women never labeled as ghetto. The word “ghetto” has a negative stigma attached to it and it seems like ghetto has become synonymous for “Black People”.
What determines whether something is Ghetto or not? Why do some people consider one ghetto and not the other? Is being crafty with the supplies available to me ghetto?  Is being creative while black unacceptable? Does the price of something determine whether you should consider it ghetto or not? Or maybe I’m wrong…. Please do share your thoughts….

@hated_logic

You’re exactly right. Just like when Black people improvise, it’s ghetto, but let a middle-to-upper class white person do it, it’s a lifehack, or being thrifty, or economical, or thinking out of the box, or brilliant, or whatever.

THIS FOR ALL OF ETERNITY

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April 20, 2014
Requirements To Join The New Black Club

cmtothemc:

1. Have a colorblind mentality

2. Gotta have a lot of friends in which you allow them to treat you like their “token” black friend

3. Must think We Can’t Stop is an awesome song

4. Swear you’re the only black girl who thinks twerking is “ratchet”

5. Swear you’re the only…

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April 20, 2014

cindersinrags:

divaspoet:

babycakesbriauna:

nikkisshadetree:

bananadome:

Olivia loves Fitz

No she doesn’t.

She doesn’t know how to love

Whatever she feels for him, it isn’t strong enough to make her stay and fight for them and their future. It isn’t strong enough to overpower her need to flee every single time they are tested or an uncomfortable situation presents itself.
She may not know how to show her feelings, but a large part of that is because she has never truly committed herself to feeling those feelings, being honest about those feelings, accepting those feelings, verbally acknowledging those feelings, and attempting to express those feelings with honest actions.

But what is she fighting for? A man who told her that he’s staying to mend his wife’s brokenness and his family? For how long must she wait? For how long must she sit watching him mourn the loss of his child with his wife? A month? Three months? Six months? When will he get round to divorcing his wife?

Also, Olivia is bearing the guilt of one of her parents murdering the son of the man she loves. She thinks that the problem is her, and she thinks that everybody would be better off if she removed herself from their lives. Damn, I was exhausted watching the toll that working for Fitz and his family took on her. Olivia’s entire life is a wreck, and some of that is Fitz’s fault. Regardless of how much she loves him, the idea that she should stay when she feels as broken as she does, just to be there for him is BS. Olivia has to put herself first, she has to fix herself otherwise she’s no good to anybody in her orbit, she’s certainly no good for Fitz carrying all that guilt. The only reason people are angry is because she let Jake go with her, had she gone alone, nobody would have been talking about how selfish she was leaving him to grieve alone for his son.

It shouldn’t be up to Olivia to fight, Fitz is the one who’s married. Fitz is the one who has to extricate himself out of his marriage, but he’s staying to fix his family, and no matter how much he says he loves Olivia, talk is cheap. Action is what matters. Fitz is doing the right thing by staying with Mellie for now, but that doesn’t stop the fact that it must hurt Olivia. Her leaving on a plane with Jake doesn’t mean that she doesn’t love Fitz as much as he loves her, it just means that she’s recognized that she needs to fix her life. Jake being with her is a terrible idea, but she’ll probably realize that soon enough.

I think it’s ridiculous that people are blaming the single woman in the adulterous relationship for not being there for the man who says he wants to marry her and have babies with her, even though he’s still married.

You’re making way too much sense. 

In order for a relationship to stand a chance it must be founded on honesty, trust and respect. All Liv, Fitz and Mellie had an awful start and it just got worse with each twist and turn. Now? I think they’re finally getting somewhere. The truth is out there, they’ve all covered a lot of ground since they first met, there is greater ground to be covered but at least they are gearing up for it in the right way.

Mellie had to be dragged kicking and screaming to face reality- paternity test. Liv? Not so much. Gone are the days when she’d engage in subterfuge in order to make sure Fitz gets ahead. During the campaign, she was honest and upfront with him, not once did she try to sugar coat things. Both Liv and Fitz took the masks off, they had terrible fights, she raged and so did he but through it all, they were honest with each other. If that’s not character progression then I don’t what is.

When Liv  found out that BJ had raped Mellie rape, she didn’t conceal the truth for her own benefit, instead  she took it to Fitz and gave him the opportunity to make decisions based on a full set of facts. Liv has shown integrity and equity. I bet this has garnered her respect from both the Grants. Mellie may not like Olivia for obvious reasons but I’m sure somewhere along the way she has will forever be grateful that Liv made that paternity test happen without incident and in unearthing the truth, liberated her. If that is not good story telling that illustrates character progression then I don’t know what is.

Liv acted like a grown ass woman.  A grown ass woman knows when enter (reveal the rape) and she knows when to step aside and handle her business as  well as let other people handle their business (let the Grants mourn).

Liv has no choice but to mourn on her own. Her parents have put her in a very difficult position and she needs time to work out a way forward. On her own. Fitz has no choice but no mourn with his family, like it or not he is a man of many responsibilities. Granted Mellie suffered a trauma but, she then made  the wrong call and in the process destroyed herself and her family. She made a huge mistake but to err is human. Somewhere along the way, Fitz  behave poorly. Their marriage is over, Liv has put them on a level where they can talk to each other, they now need to sit down, cut out the pretense and bitterness, have an honest conversation and work out something viable. To forgive is divine.

Shonda has been ruthless in the way she’s written the love triangle. Once upon a time many spoke up in defence of Liv’s agency, seems like she only had agency when it came to the affair with Fitz but the moment she tried to test the waters with Jake she became unpalatable. As far as I’m concerned she was brave to test the waters with Jake, she dipped her foot in it and realised come hell or high water, Fitz is the person she wants to be with. Messy and murky? Yes. But out of that came some semblance of clarity. Jake wants to change her mind? Good luck to him. May the best man win.

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April 19, 2014
Terry McMillan's "A Day Late And A Dollar Short" Lifetime, Sat. April 19, 8 p.m. EST

skidivame:

skidivame:

TONIGHT!!!!!

The cast!  You lucky people! I guess I’ll have to revert back to the book to get me through.

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